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......July 2006 ~~~~ Editor:  Cliff Hanger ~~~~
 THE PETTENGILL PERCUSSION ARMY REVOLVER 
AND IT'S SIBLING
THE RODGERS AND SPENCER  PERCUSSION ARMY REVOLVER
by David Radcliff
A TWO PART RAMBLING OF TWO REVOLVERS WITH THE SAME FRONT END!

TOP: THE RODGERS AND SPENCER .44 CALIBER SINGLE ACTION PERCUSSION ARMY
BOTTOM: THE PETTENGILL .44 CALIBER DOUBLE ACTION PERCUSSION ARMY REVOLVER (See Part 1)
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 PART 2
THE ROGERS & SPENCER
SINGLE ACTION PERCUSSION ARMY REVOLVER
    In 1864, after producing the ill fated Pettengill Army and Navy size revolvers, Rogers and Spencer started to produce a much improved firearm bearing their name. They basically retained the forward part of the frame, barrel and loading lever assemblies of the Pettengill Percussion Army Revolver probably utilizing the same machinery to manufacture both. On November 29, 1864, Rogers, Spencer & Company received a War Department contract for 5,000 of their revolvers at a cost of $12.00 each. The contract called for 500 to be delivered in January of 1865 and 500 more per each month thereafter until all of the arms were delivered. They met the contract terms delivering the last 500 in September of 1865 approximately 4 months after the cessation of hostilities. The particular weapon pictured here, serial number 2879, was probably delivered in June of 1865.  Despite the Rodgers & Spencer being among the best of the percussion military revolvers ever produced none of them were issued for field service during or after the war. All 5,000 of them were kept in storage in New York until 1901. At that time the entire lot of them were sold at auction at a cost to the bidder of around $ .50 each. Due to this, today we find many of these revolvers in new or nearly new condition. However, some are also found that show hard usage indicating that some people found them useful after all. The total number of Rogers and Spencer arms produced, based on existing serial numbers, was approximately 5,800 indicating that some were likely sold on the commercial market.


RIGHT  & LEFT  SIDE VIEWS OF THE ROGERS AND SPENCER .44 CALIBER SINGLE ACTION PERCUSSION ARMY REVOLVER 
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LEFT SIDE VIEW OF THE SPENCER & ROGERS ARMY REVOLVER WITH THE COMBINATION LOADING LEVER / CYLINDER ARBOR MECHANISM, LEFT AND RIGHT SET SCREWS  AND CYLINDER REMOVED
    This single action, six-shot arm is .44 caliber and weighs 3 pounds. Measured diagonally from the tip of the butt to the muzzle face it is 14-1/4" overall. The 7-1/2" barrel is rifled with 5 grooves. The barrel is marked on the top strap "ROGERS & SPENCER / UTICA N.Y" in two lines. A government inspectors mark of a "B" is stamped on both the left and right barrel flats near the frame housing. Centered on the bottom of the barrel is the serial number, "2879". An "0" is stamped to the rear of the loading lever catch located 1-1/2" on center from the muzzle. The inspector's "B" stampings are also on both the left and right sides of the upper forward frame, on the left frame below the hammer, and at the bottom of the frame to the rear of the trigger guard screw. It is also stamped on the left side of the hammer and the left side of the combination loading lever and cylinder arbor near the frame as well as towards the rear of the cylinder between two of the beveled, semi-circular nipple wells, and in front of the mis-stamped serial number on the cylinder. That stamping consists of an upside down "3" followed by "879". The correct serial number stamping of  "2879" is also on the left frame under the cylinder opening, on the bottom of the grip strap, on the top of the combination loading lever and cylinder arbor assembly (twice) and inside both grips. On the bottom of the frame in front of the trigger guard screw is the stamping of a small shield. The cartouche of the inspector's initials is stamped in the left grip of the two-piece, oil-finished walnut grips. Although quite faint they are "RPB" for Robert P. Barry, Captain U.S.A., 1860-1865.
"ROGERS & SPENCER / UTICA N.Y" STAMPING -TOP OF FRAME
(ALSO NOTE SIGHTING GROOVE)
"B" INSPECTOR'S MARKINGS LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE BARREL FLATS & FRAME, LEFT SIDE
LOADING LEVER, HAMMER AND TRIGGER GUARD PLUS SHIELD STAMPING
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"B" ON CYLINDER BETWEEN NIPPLE WELLS

SERIAL NUMBER "2879" STAMPING CYLINDER* AND LEFT FRAME (* MIS-STAMPED)

NUMBER "0" AND SERIAL NUMBER "2879"ON BOTTOM BARREL FLAT

CLOSE UP OF MIS-STAMPED SERIAL NUMBER (UPSIDE DOWN "3" PLUS "879")

ERIAL NUMBER "2879" ON BUTT STRAP

SERIAL NUMBER "2879" ON RAM ROD / CYLINDER ARBOR PIN

SERIAL NUMBER "2879"INSIDE GRIPS

LEFT GRIP CARTOUCHE (FAINT)
("RPB" for Robert P. Barry, Captain U.S.A., 1860-1865)
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    There is a high German silver cone front sight set 3/8", on center, from the muzzle face. The rear sight is formed by a pinched "V" groove formed into the top strap. The blued, solid frame is marked as described above. At the front of the cylinder the frame drops vertically enclosing the barrel threads. There is a cone shaped loading groove at the lower right of the frame. A somewhat flat recoil shield behind the cylinder is cast integral to the frame. A semi-circular capping groove is present in the right side recoil shield. The hammer was originally case-hardened. The blued six chamber 2 inch long cylinder has rectangular shaped stop slots. The nipples are recessed in beveled, semi-circular wells. The one piece grip straps and trigger guard are blue finished as is the trigger. The two screws at the rear of the frame serve to properly position the grip straps. The case-hardened loading lever has a plunger type latch that is held by a catch mortised into the bottom of the barrel 1-1/2" from the muzzle. The loading lever/cylinder arbor assembly is held in place by set screws which enter the frame from each side just forward of the cylinder. These set screws must be removed to free the cylinder. The black walnut two piece grips flare out quite noticeably at the butt giving this arm a unique appearance.
 

    If I have one criticism of this arm, it is the set screws. It is always easier to load the cylinder when it is out of the gun. The user would need a screw driver to remove these set screws if he wished to take the cylinder out each time he loaded the weapon. A prospect fraught with problems when in the field. 

FRONT CONE SIGHT

SET SCREWS FOR RELEASING LOADING LEVER / CYLINDER ARBOR

LEFT & RIGHT SIDE VIEWS - BARREL, LOADING LEVER  & FRONT OF FRAME

FRONT CYLINDER VIEW

REAR CYLINDER VIEW
 RIGHT & LEFT GRIP VIEWS


TOP & BOTTOM OVERALL VIEWS
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    Reference material for this posting came from "U.S. Military Small Arms 1816-1865" by Robert M. Reilly, "Civil War Small Arms", an American Rifleman Reprint - Articles "Civil War Revolvers Part 1 & 2 of 2" by C. Meade Patterson & Cuddy De Marco, Jr. and Norm Flayderman's "Flayderman's Guide To Antique American Firearms... And Their Values".

    The photographs are all originals of mine as are any assumptions or errors in this posting. The ace webmaster is Reed Radcliffe, my son, who puts this all together for your viewing.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
Dave Radcliffe
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Getting a Grip by Cliff Hanger

At so many matches I see shooters at the firing line wiping their hands off before they start. It's not those that wipe their hands once but those that keep doing it over and over before saying they're ready. Most of this is most likely nerves. And with this nervousness comes sweaty hands. 

What I would like to share at this time with those of us that have this problem at times is a simple little trick I learned in a jr high science class. Along with all the other science stuff, the teacher explained the reasons we get sweat hands and how to control it. His example was, "What to do when you go for your job interview!" You do not want to shake hands with anyone when you have sweaty hands. All us kids thought this was silly. As the lesson went on he said no one would go to an interview without first taking a bath and putting on clean clothes. As the time gets closer to the interview everyone tends to get nervous. The first signs are your palms getting damp. His little secret to controlling this was simple. As you get dress, take the same deodorant you use and put it on your palms. This will stop the perspiration on your hands.

Now using this little trick in our sport you will now have better gun control. You will have to learn to grip your guns correctly before using them. This is because your hands will no longer slip. To change your grip if it should need adjusting, you will actually have to release your grip. Reposition the gun and regrip it. 

Another suggestion is to use an unscented spray on. This stops the funny looks you will no doubt get from the perfumed hand you will have if you do not use an unscented product.

Ahoy, Brass Shot Shells by Engineer BILL

I had a nice chat with Beartrap Bandit and he shared with me the following info for publication regarding brass shot shells. I bought a box of 25 for $13.99

Magtech brass
Inexpensive brass shells. Use lg pistol primers ,11ga overpowder and cushion wads & 10 ga overshot card. Can be roll crimped to feed easier. 
Available from Midway Supply.

Rocky Mountain Cartridge Co.    www.rockymountaincartridge.com          307-587-9693
Expensive but almost indestructible shells. Use 209 primers and all wads are 12ga. Are heavy and slide out easily. Also make a handy reloading kit for about $35. Website has useful reloading instructions.

RCBS                            www.rcbs.com                            800-533-5000
Makes a 12 gauge shell holder. It’s not listed in parts book but you can call to order.

Track of the Wolf               www.trackofthewolf.com                  763-633-6785
Good source for CircleFly wads.

Dixie Gun Works                 www.dixiegunworks.com                   800-238-6785
Another source for wads and other stuff.

DUCO cement                     Available at Ace Hardware, Home Depo,  Walmart, Etc.
Works well for glueing in overshot card. Comes in a Green tube.

Midway USA                      www.midwayusa.com                       800-243-3220
Good source for Magtech brass and reloading tools/supplies

CircleFly wads                  www.circlefly,com                       717-862-3600
Very good quality wads. Site also has useful info on reloading.

Lee Improved Powder Measure Kit         Available from Midway
Best $7 investment you’ll make!

C-H Tool & Die Co.              www.ch4d.com                            740-397-7214
Make both a sizing/depriming & roll crimp die for magtech brass. BIG dies and you must remove the adapter nut in a Rockchucker to use (11/2“ wrench). 
Make sure to use plenty of case lube! Expensive but work great and may pay off if you shoot a lot of brass.

Ebay                            www.ebay.com
Good source for reloading tools. Try searches for “antique reloading”, “vintage reloading”. “old reloading”’ etc. Be a nice guy and don’t try to outbid me though!

Hammer Double Shells            www.hammerdouble.com                    800-543-5988
Make “crown series” brass shells using what appears to be magtech brass but come with 209 primers already installed and in a nice plastic box. Somewhat 
pricey though!
 

  
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